Guardian writer, Tehmina Kazi, a "Muslim", disliked my comments so much she blocked me on Facebook
|Tehmina Kazi, Director of BMSD|
I have met this lady and our exchanges previously had been friendly. However, because she is a woman she has conformed to type and is simply doing what most women do, which is to silence and demonise those who disagree with them in their totalitarian way.
Tehmina praised the fact that Ottoman Emperior decriminalised homosexuality.
To this I said:
Tehmina would support the legalisation of homosexuality and ignoring the Koranic injunction against homosexuality.
What makes her [as a Muslim] think that liberalism is a superior to Koranic principles? What right has she to unilaterally decide that homosexuality should be legalised when it says plainly in the Koran that it is forbidden?
YUSUFALI: If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.
PICKTHAL: As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).
SHAKIR: And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
YUSUFALI: If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: And as for the two of you who are guilty thereof, punish them both. And if they repent and improve, then let them be. Lo! Allah is ever relenting, Merciful.
SHAKIR: And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful.
So Tehmina is just going to IGNORE it then, is she, because she has decided that Koranic principles should SUBMIT to liberal laws of gay couples being allowed to marry each other?
Is she no longer a Muslim then?
Secularism means just valuing godless ideologies above established religion. It means that secular governments have the power to pass legislation that offends against religious principles. Tehmina clearly thinks that liberalism should prevail over Islam, and is happy to do so.
But it is annoying that Muslims like Tehmani think the Koran is like the Woolworth's Pick and Mix section.
It is only criminal when there are 4 witnesses ....
To this Tehmina said:
Thanks folks! I wondered why Claire Khaw was trolling on my wall - I had defriended her a few months ago and thought my wall was only open to Friends? Must be the new Facebook settings
before blocking me.
For lesbians, you need to have 4 witnesses to your lesbian act before you can be convicted. Unless you are an incorrigible exhibitionist, I think you would be safe from persecution.
Even if you were successfully prosecuted someone would have to stand guard outside your house to confine you until you are dead, and they will probably find they have other fish to fry after they have calmed down a bit.
So I think most lesbians would be left well alone.
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it...But fear Allah: For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Shun much suspicion; for lo! some suspicion is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that (so abhor the other)! And keep your duty (to Allah). Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! avoid most of suspicion, for surely suspicion in some cases is a sin, and do not spy nor let some of you backbite others. Does one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? But you abhor it; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, surely Allah is Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful.
Do not spy on homosexuals to obtain evidence of their homosexuality. So only those who are incorrigible cottagers get done.
I don't have a problem with any of this.
The point is that the Koran would never make even a long term homosexual relationship equal to marriage, and that is fair enough for me.
The tax advantage to having a civil partnership is to inherit free of 40% inheritance tax. My concession to homosexuals in a long term relationship would be this: abolish inheritance tax altogether. I think this would be very popular even amongst heterosexuals with offspring.
Why can't Tehmina debate this in a sensible fashion? The reason is not because she is a Muslim but because she is a woman and a liberal who writes for The Guardian.